[popo1]

Auch für nicht Chlamydien Infizierte ist folgende Liste mit Ergänzungen, Vitaminen etc. zum Entgiften bestimmt interessant:

http://www.cpnhelp.org/publicimages/...entschart.html

[Krasny]

Vielen Dank für die Liste, Popo!

[popo1]

Was wohl besonders interessant sein dürfte wenn mann sich durch toxine so sch... fühlt:

- Kohle compretten 2g (10stck)
- und damit es einem schnell besser geht :Vit C in hohen dosen (min.2 g) - am besten gepuffertes (Wird von den toxinen absorbiert) und verschafft mir innerhalb von 20 - 30 minuten Linderung - wird auf der cpn seite auch immer wieder beschrieben

Leider nur englisch

I've had good experience with mid-pulse or post-pulse "flagyli malaise" using a "Vitamin C Flush." So I thought I'd put it in this adjuncts forum for later reference.
It was recommended to me by my original CFSi doc to help detox from endotoxini and medication effects. "Flagyl Malaise" is my name for that feeling I'd get about day 3 or 4 of a pulse, or sometimes just following a pulse, of feeling loggy, toxic, mildly nauseated, brain fogged and aching. The Vitamin C flush really helped leave me feeling clearer. The first time I did it I required an eye-opening 28grams of powdered buffered C to reach bowel tolerance. Signs that my body just sucked up an extraordinary amount before hitting my limit. Subsequent times required lessor amounts.
An excellent description here
A good description at Teitelbaum's website click here
Or this pdf file
Both of these use the resulting dosage for bowel tolerance (the Flush part of it) to determine daily C dosage needs. You can use that part or not as suits you. Obviously, do it before doing any other medications or supplementsii as they will all be wasted!
Best sources of Buffered Vitamin C Powder for a flush:

• Allergy Research Group (Nutricology) Buffered Vitamin C Powder which is inexpensive and also has a form of C derived from Cassava root available for the highly allergic. A cheap and good quality source.
• American Biologics Ultra AB-C Buffered Vitamin C Powder- I like this one best for the added quercetin and a highly available form of zinc ascorbate. A reliable supplier here

With both I usually flavor it with a packet of the Emergen-C, which alone is still rather acidic, but the other powders have enough buffering to neutralize that too. Be sure to stir a lot until it's fully reacted (no fizz left)
Don't plan on going anywhere while you are doing it!
On Wheldon/Stratton protocol for Cpni in CFS/FMSi since December 2004.